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Post by MUSTANGMOM Wed 11 Jun 2008, 8:49 am

From the Proud Political Junkies Gazette:

Absent from any past debates by the presidential wannabe’s, and what will most likely never be mentioned by either McCain or Obama, is any reference to the illegal and unconstitutional laws that have been passed in the last seven years. As long as these issues are never allowed to be brought up it prevents either of them from having to acknowledge that they voted for them or that they even know about them.

What has passed for “debates” over the last months should have outraged even the most apathetic among us. Tell-all MSM tabloid reporting should have had us all cutting off our dish and cable services. Instead millions of us tuned in so we could see “democracy in action!” And what a democracy it is!

Rather than allowing free and open questions, the debate sponsors…that would be huge corporations…..screened all the questions to determine which would be most important or appropriate. Apparently, important and appropriate did not include questions about illegal trade agreements, unconstitutional laws, loss of civil liberties and rights or the gross expansion of power Bush has granted the office of the presidency. Instead we were treated to carefully selected “questions” about national healthcare….the new divisive issue (we couldn’t really beat those anti-gay marriage and abortion horses again) and other soft issues that had no real relevance.

If we are to continue to allow the federal government to act as an agency that is independent of the American people (a dictatorship at the very least) we may as well skip all the phony debates and get right down to the issue of dispensing with elections altogether. I suggest we just let one corrupt regime after another decide who or if there will be a successor and leave the rest of us out of it. Oh…wait minute…..they’re already doing that.

We already know that whether Democrat or Republican it’s all the same. We have no representation in the White House and we have none in congress. Vice president Cheney has declared himself not to be part of the executive branch which makes me wonder “then what exactly is he vice president of ?” and if he in fact is not part of that branch “how can he claim executive privilege in any situation or when any demands are made for his cooperation?” Now you’d have thought someone in congress might have asked those questions.

We have a House that passed (with only six “nays”) the HR 1955 legislation that makes domestic terrorists out of all of us for expressing our displeasure over the corruption of government and its agencies. The Anti-Terrorism and Homegrown Radicalization Act” or whatever that piece of unconstitutional garbage is, will effectively silence every dissenter in this country and, it will also prevent you from using your email, fax or phone to call your senator or representative to express your thoughts! Apparently to do so would mean that you are “terrorizing” that elected official. Of course the vote in the House was not a roll call recorded vote, so we have no record of who voted and how which makes absolutely no difference because it passed overwhelmingly. S 1595 is now in the Senate and Bush already has his handy-dandy pen ready to sign this legislation into public law.

Aside from these few things are the chronic attempts to pass or to attach amnesty legislation when the American public has expressed its disgust and opposition to this in monumental numbers. (This could be effectively ended with passage of S1959 and the Senate could then say they had no idea the public opposed it).

There is no real interest in controlling oil cartel profits while Americans struggle with artificially high gas prices, or, any attempt to regain control of our markets and economy by ending CAFTA and NAFTA and implementing a free market based on fair trade and what are economically sound trade policies. Nope! Too much money to be made there and too many lobbyists with bags of it to spread around.

Just as an aside: I wonder just how much money and what kind of perks it takes to get a senator or representative to betray the people who put them in office?


Other than Rep. Ron Paul, I know of no senator or representative, much less any presidential candidate, who has expressed any knowledge of the Security & Prosperity Partnership or the intent to create a North American Union. None but Rep. Paul that I know of, expressed any opposition to either of these and there sure hasn’t been any discussion of either issue in the House or Senate. Nor has there been any admission of knowledge about the Public/Private Partnerships (PPP’s) that form the working groups that are facilitating this forfeiture of our sovereignty or who is getting paid and how that payment is made. Of course we do know who is making the payments….we are.

As for the voting system, it is now so corrupt and controlled by global corporations that even paper ballots have become suspect. I am still amazed by people who know that our computers are hacked into daily by various government agencies and all of our interaction while online is dutifully recorded and examined, but who also believe that somehow voting machines can’t be tampered with. Or that they aren’t. Maybe they weren’t around for the last two presidential elections.

In the end, we are left with what has become an irrelevant and oppositional House and Senate, and a presidency that is well on its way to becoming a dictatorship if it is not in fact, already there. Our right to vote is overshadowed by being presented with candidates who only promise to continue the dismantling of our Republic and who also have no intentions of reversing any presidential directives, executive orders or legislation that have diminished the premise of a free nation with limited government.

As we come to this end, we still insist on separating our selves from each other over this false idea that we are either, left or right, conservative or liberal. This wedge that is so effectively driven into the public mindset is the most effective tool ever devised to keep the public from working together to control the government. As long as it remains a weapon of mass division, we will never have a government of the people, by the people or for the people. We will have only what we have now but more of it. More corruption, more malfeasance, more fascism and ultimately more betrayal. My question to all of you is this: Is it worth your life and liberty to let this continue?

Marti Oakley (c)2008[/font]
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Post by greendragon Wed 11 Jun 2008, 12:53 pm

Well that about sums up my feelings. Good article!

Many are standing up and taking over their local Republican parties. But still many are divided over party lines and false divisions. The majority will not wake up until the pain gets bad enough IMO.
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Post by MUSTANGMOM Thu 12 Jun 2008, 7:05 pm

What I thought was so interesting is that if the constituents call, fax, email their reps then they become 'domestic terrorists'. I'd be willing to bet that doesn't include lobbyists.

Pretty elite, huh? We just want you to elect us, repeatedly of course, but we don't give a hoot what you think or what you want. How many of us could afford to go to Washington to speak in person to the rep??

Just when I think I've heard it all..they come up with something like this...
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Post by radicalgma Sat 05 Jul 2008, 11:06 am

MUSTANGMOM wrote:What I thought was so interesting is that if the constituents call, fax, email their reps then they become 'domestic terrorists'. I'd be willing to bet that doesn't include lobbyists.

Pretty elite, huh? We just want you to elect us, repeatedly of course, but we don't give a hoot what you think or what you want. How many of us could afford to go to Washington to speak in person to the rep??

Just when I think I've heard it all..they come up with something like this...

Is this true? That we are put on a terrorist list if we communicate with them? Where is that written? Wow.! Shocked
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Post by greendragon Sat 05 Jul 2008, 12:32 pm

I think she meant more along the lines of depending on what you say this legislation is so general you could be considered a domestic terrorist by calling and voicing opposition to them.
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